17. Small UAS Operations

you my name is Michael Holsworth as Phillips you guys in advance for giving me the opportunity to for lack of better turns drone on about for about a half hour here today I'll briefly be covering the part 107 guidelines the differences between hobby flying and 107 commercial flying different policies procedures and my experience thus far in the industry at any time if you guys have any questions feel free to interrupt I don't mind and I'm going to leave some time at the end for questions and if any you guys want to come up and check out the bird up here please feel free alright this first slide is gonna talk a little bit about my journey thus far in the industry her brought my first drone in 2014 to take with me on a trip to Hawaii edited up some footage posted my content to YouTube and got a little bit of semi viral success about 50,000 views and then a a Licensing Company actually reached out to me and said hey we want to utilize some of your footage we want to sell it and we like it and I just said man I just made this for fun I can make money doing this this is great and a little side revenue stream there after you know after I started making a little bit of money I was kind of hooked and when the first round of 107 exams took place roughly two years ago I told my father at East Coast I want to be the very first person in the state to take that exam I passed I was the first person in the state of Massachusetts to hold the 107 that reign of terror lasted were roughly five minutes so the kid next to me passed his test and then there was two I then had some local success next I made a video Phillip was alluding to on Cape Cod over at Wellfleet if any of you are familiar with the Beachcomber I absolutely love that place went and flew my drone there posted a video all the local news channels picked it up and about two weeks later I received a nice $1,500 fine from the ranger station in Cape Cod they fined me for what was it some kind of piper plover puffin bird out there I was flying over a sanctuary they were not happy that and I was operating a over a national park I want to stress though the FAA didn't find me it was the Ranger service that fine that gave me the fine I kind of chuckled at it because I made about forty eight hundred bucks off the footage and that made the fine I took worth it in the fall of 2016 I basically hit some viral gold I took my drone up to the kanka Mancos highway during the fall made a nice little foliage video a couple licensing companies picked it up and that very next day it ran on Good Morning America I got some national attention to the tune of about 4.7 million views on the video still counting people still watching that thing all the time especially in the fall gets a lot of play you might be wondering what does 4.7 million views equate to in dollars I'll admit it's not that much you'd expect wish it was a buck of you but unfortunately is not I think I made about 10 grand off that but something I was just doing for fun and made you know I had no intention of it going viral or getting that kind of success I was definitely a plus after I got that national attention a local production company called above summit here in Somerville contacted me where you been all our lives come work for us and now I'm a production coordinator and lead drone up over at above summit next slide this slide basically just provides you with some links to the full text of regulations introduction material and any other relevant documents you guys can take a look at this on your own time alright next we're going to talk a little bit about hobby verse 107 let's talk about the difference hobby operation is just how it sounds you want to go out and take some pictures of your kid or do whatever that's that's on your own time that's hobby but if your intended use is for anything commercial you are required to obtain a 107 some examples real estate photos aerial surveying thermal imaging search-and-rescue industrial pipeline inspection things of that nature even if you're working for or with a non-profit you still have to obtain 1:07 what are the what are the asterisks there Michael I'm getting to it okay we're getting there so some basic operating rules are shared by both hobby and 107 operators you have to keep visual line of sight must follow basic safety guidelines maintain altitude of 400 feet or below something to note like Philip was saying you'll see these asterisks bullet points on the right-hand side under 107 you can get waivers and exceptions from the FAA to kind of break these rules we're gonna talk a little bit more about that as the slides continue here we'll circle back to that slide for talks about multi person crew you know they don't tell you that you have to have a multi person crew sometimes it's really not needed if you're working for let's say a real estate company and they want you to take some photos of a residential house you know you're standing right in front of the house you don't really need a visual observer someone looking for obstructions or things of that nature you can pull it off yourself but in more of a professional setting or depending on the scope of your job that you're using your for you know having a visual observer is definitely helpful I have some buddies that work in the industrial sector inspecting pipeline that's 30 40 miles long they actually use ten visual observers and they stage them with radios and binoculars along the pipeline just for added safety and then they have the the operator kind of cruising you know walking with the drone if you will sometimes but my personal experience on movie sets and things of that nature we operate with a three-man crew we have a visual observer a camera operator and then someone behind the wheel of this thing right here you will notice this camera on here can be independently operated by its own set of controls and then the drone can be operated by its set of controls width which allows you to get you know more dynamic range of shots drone can be going this way camera can be panning the other way drone can be rising up as camera goes down so it really brings some versatility to your shots and things of that the last bullet point here mentions that the drone operator need not be certified but a 1:07 operator must be on site and you might be wondering when this would come into play I get a lot of requests from wedding people wedding people videographers photographers things of that nature they look at the drone as kind of another tool in their in their bag to utilize when they're you know doing their gigs and things of that nature they don't want to get a 107 they don't want to want the hassle for them it's easier to pay me a hundred bucks just to show up and make sure they're doing everything on the up-and-up and supervising it always amazes me – at weddings why someone would want this loud spinning machine over their ceremony you know whether giving their I Do's all your here's me some people actually want it for the video that wanted for Prosperity I guess all right human factors in decision-making alcohol and drugs obviously don't operate under the influence no matter how tempting it is have a couple beers want to fly on the beach not a smart idea let's see here crew resource management this basically stated the more people you can bring into the operation the better nothing wrong with an extra set of eyes fatigue and stress obviously not a good time to operate here's one of my favorites talking about attitudes the FAA they list five attitudes anti-authority macho impulsivity and vulnerability and resignation the one I see the most out there is anti Authority all the time people want to fly where they're not supposed to they want to fly longer than they should they want to fly in no-fly zones eight hundred feet by Logan right by the runway you know that's just not beneficial for the Hobby not beneficial for anybody that Logan example Logan is actually currently doing something about it the company DJI which Phillip mentioned earlier they're actually you know the leader in commercial drone systems they recently came up this product called DJI arrow scope and what arrow scope does whether it's a DJI drone or not if you fly into Logan airspace it will ping your bird and it will tell them your location and serial number the serial number is going to go right back to you you're gonna lose your 107 and you're gonna get some hefty fines it's just not smart to fly in Logan airspace or any Airport airspace for that example what why do you want to mess around with the manned aircrafts next we're gonna get into performance you'll basically find the same performance issues that you do with fixed wings but you know the drone obviously is going to be more sensitive to these issues things like high density altitude humidity weight high winds are all examples items that are going to negatively impact the performance of your UAS so definitely be cautious of that loading I always like talking about this you know there is no book yet about how to properly load these things now this drone that I brought in you know this this only has a limited amount of camera and imaging systems that you can mount here onto the drone so this camera actually comes off this whole entire three axis gimbal system here can mount off and you can put interchangeable you know if you wanted to put thermal let's say let's say the call me and they they got somebody missing or somebody kidnapped and they think they're in this area I can do you know grid patterns with thermal imaging to find these guys so that's that's this type of drone but when we're on movie sets and things of that nature we're using what the term we called is a heavy lift drone we have a drone that has a wingspan of about 10 feet from prop to prop its massive it can hold up about you know 40 to 50 pounds on its own stabilizer and the problem is is that there's so many different kinds of cameras that this thing could mount you could mount an Aria Lexi mini you could mount Hanan as Sony you know cameras that you see people walking around the common taking pictures with you can mount on these types of the issue is they're all different sizes they're all different shapes they're all different weights and there's no real book on how to properly mount these things so what we do is test test test we go out to wide open fields you know what here's a good example last month we did a movie called knives out if any of you have seen James Bond double-oh-seven that actor Daniel Craig we were doing a movie for that and they wanted this about hundred thousand dollar camera mounted onto the drone for the job if that's not nerve-racking enough flying one hundred thousand dollars but then we were nervous we were like look we've never flown that camera before we've never tested it on this heavy lift drone so we actually made the studio give us the camera for a week we took it to a wide open field we played around with it for a while and you know we got it dialed in perfectly I mean the last thing you want to do is show up to a job and kind of wing it with six figures worth of equipment where you're working around a guy gets paid twenty million dollars a movie it's just a recipe for disaster so make sure you're always testing all the time especially if you're loading different things you could definitely have fun with loading these things up – I was telling Phillip a story the other day about five years ago when I had my first DJI phantom I met I mounted some Roman candles on the landing gear chase my buddies around so you could definitely have some fun there there's nothing in the book about that moving on drones at night you do need a waiver to fly at night and we'll get more into how to apply for these waivers and what portals you have to go through with the FAA the drone zone is actually for flying at night and again I'll get more into that you can however operate we like using the term Golden Hour or civil twilight if you will the only rule is you have to have a small strobe or anti-collision lights on there we always like to mount on this drone right there just to make sure we're not getting anything in the camera image or you know we don't want the footage to show the strobe obviously but we want to play it safe Michael sir hold on SEC so is there is there an official mounting spot for a light here or you know you just have to like velcro velcro it on a relative interesting let's see here regulatory fine print don't be careless or reckless don't drop stuff if you can't if you crash and it caused a significant damage which I believe the FAA considers $500 you do have to report it luckily I've never run into that issue which is nice pre-flight pre-flight is huge just like fixed-wing you want to do pre-flight you can see all the pre-flight requirements here on the slide in my personal experience I've seen situations go very bad because pre-flight has not happened literally three weeks ago I had a buddy who bought the same exact drone and actually was a version before this this is a DJI inspire 2 he had a DJI inspire 1 it was very cold outside and he just fired it up and took off right away did not pay attention to his battery voltage about 8 minutes into his flight his bird dropped like a rock and that was about a five thousand dollar loss just going out having fun with your buddies so pre-flight is definitely something that you want to pay attention to personally I double and triple check before taking off a lot of times what I do I'll you know do my walk-around the drone to make sure everything's good make sure connection links are fine and then what I'll do when I take off I'll let it sit for about 30 seconds right in front of me 5 feet off the ground watch the controls watch everything make sure my gauges are right make sure I have good connection to satellites make sure it's GPS locked make sure my return to home button is readily available and marked it just these these are expensive you know I mean this setup right here you're looking at you know ten thousand dollars into this thing so a little extra time pre-flight is definitely worth it also remember pre-flight just doesn't include only the drone as well if you're working with a multi crew you know double-check your comms double-check your batteries double-check the props make sure they're not chipped things of that nature you know what this reminds me of one story I actually did have a crash once about three years ago if you guys know what stand-up paddle boarding is right people stand up on the paddle board and they do this thing I had a company asked me to film them at night and marblehead and it was this big open bay with a ton of boats so we had like 40 yards of open water and then nothing but a boat parking lot and these guys at night we're gonna put LED strip lights all over them they had these spotlights to go under the water on the board and they were gonna do some nighttime blacklight yoga session out there in the water sure if your check clears I'll go film it no problem all right so I say to myself all right I'm looking at the situation and I say all right there's a bunch of boats out there I do not want to hit them it is going to be night I will not see them when I'm flying what can I do so I walked up to where I was gonna launch from dip my piggies in the water right there and said all right I'm gonna fly the drone out to the first boat and I'm gonna look at my control setup and I'm gonna note how far away I am from the boats all right I think it was 90 feet away so I told myself mentally when it comes time to film this at night I will not go past 90 feet or I'm gonna hit a boat all right what do you think the problem with that is anyone anyone know what the problem with that assessment is and I was a bonehead I did not consider the tide so about two hours later when it came time to do the job I put my piggies in the same water right there but guess where that water was about 20 feet out all right so I'm thinking to myself I got 90 feet to play with about I don't know I want to say one of my last shots I wanted to get I had him all lined up all the lights everything looked cool they're all doing like a yay and I wanted to orbit around them and halfway around my orbit I hear crunch splash I hit a boat mast luckily very luckily the drone hit the mast the battery came out of the compar and the batteries what I heard splashing the physical drone and more importantly the memory card with my footage landed on the boat which one of the guys ended up getting for me so that was good but Michael quit yes quick question I thought these drones had sonar so tight collision system these do yeah so most they most certainly do and quite frankly between I don't want to endorse this you should always fly with your you know obstacle avoidance on and your vision positioning sensors and things of that nature for me personally it blows my shots all the time so I turned them off I say you know if this is a tip of a house right and I want to go over the house and reveal what's behind it but I want to make it look cinematic and I want to clip that roof real close and then you know reveal when I'm revealing too many times I try to clip it close at a bbbb beep no you can't your shots now bloom so I always I personally I turn them off right for beginners I'd recommend do not turn them off fly with them on until you're very comfortable with these things again they're not cheap they're expensive so a consumer in that boat situation the term wouldn't have hit the boat because the anti-collision system would have if I had it on that perhaps if I had it on correct you know you'll notice you know on the drone these this is a this is obstacle avoidance this is obstacle avoidance right there it's got visioning position system on the back and an obstacle avoidance on the back as well so it's got they like to say they're idiot proof you know unless you turn everything off next slide we're going to talk a little about about operating locally here in the Boston area in order to fly commercially in the Boston area you have to be 107 and you must obey we call it the grid that ATC @kb OS created and you know what let's just take a look at the grid here so you'll notice on this grid this is the local Boston area every little square there has a number that number represents the height that you can achieve if you obtain the waiver and you also have to be 107 certified to fly in this grid you can do hobby flights if you you know theoretically you're supposed to call the tower if you're doing a hobby flight and and make them aware that you're gonna be flying in the airspace in my personal experience every time I've called no one picks up you leave a voicemail but if you are flying commercially and you are 107 certified you do need to pay specific attention to this grid for example if I wanted to fly in Boston Common you can see right in that area there's there's a hundred box there so without a waiver since I'm 107 certified I am allowed to fly a hundred feet in the common if I hold the authorization to do so and we're gonna get more into you know when do you go through the drone zone and when you go through lank and we'll talk about that in a second here any questions about the grid anyone theoretically if you're a hobby flyer they tell you have to be 400 feet or below so in theory if you called Logan and said hey I'm flying in the common today and I just wanted to let you know I'm just doing it for fun and and messing around theoretically you could fly 400 feet is that smart no because what's going on around there med flights helicopters things of that nature ton of people underneath I see it all the time I mean I'll be and walk down the public garden or whatever and you'll see people taking off their drone flying around like an idiot having a grand old time and I'm just thinking myself all it's going to take is for you to hit someone you're gonna be on every news station tonight you know and alright let's get into a little bit of the waiver process there's two portals for waivers and authorizations one's called the drone zone and one's called length the drone zone is used for night flights wide area authorizations and exceptions such as those a strict items that we were looking at earlier like flying over people flying from a moving vehicle flying over 400 feet flying at night things of that nature and also the drone zone is meant for wide area authorization so I hold a bunch of wide area authorizations that whole grid that you saw I basically applied for the entire grid so I applied through the drone zone said hey FAA I work commercially in the area I don't want the pain in the butt of having to go through the Lange system every time I get a job just give me the entire grid and that's good for two years now the difference is lank is same-day authorization so let's say I get a job in Chicago where I'm not always operating out of and I noticed that the address they gave me in Chicago has a little box around it it's Class D airspace and they say I can only go 200 feet well if I don't hold a waiver for Chicago then I would use the length system just to get authorization for that one box that I'm operating in for that specific day in time they will give that to you within 24 hours now for the wide area authorizations or if you wanted to fly at night or over the grid box if they say hey you can only fly a hundred but you say hey the building I want to film is over 200 I need 300 feet or something of that nature you have to go through the drone zone now the problem with the drone zone is that it's a two to four month waiting time so it always behooves you especially if you're gonna work in your local market to get these authorizations beforehand I don't know anyone that's going to offer you a job for months in advance and for months I want you to film you know this down the street here usually these things happen pretty fast so it always behooves yourselves to get all your authorizations and get all your waiver is kind of in line next slide here we're going to talk about the certificate basically stated read the regs study up take the test you know personally with my affiliation with the East Coast Aero Club they have a great testing center and great people over there so please make sure you go East Coast Aero Club slide 16 certification for traditional pilots take an online course apply through AI Accra and you're off and running or flying as they say slide 17 for you guys in this class you do have a couple options any private pilot license holders out here anyone hey alright private pilot's license no exams really required if you do not hold a private pilot's license you must schedule your 107 exam at your local testing center slide 18 we're getting back to the Hobby and 107 we highlighted some of these asterisk arias here can talk about these a little bit more you know this is all about the power of the waiver you know for example about six months back the Discovery Channel was down here and they asked us to do they had a restored Viking ship and they were taking that Viking ship from Nova Scotia and sailing it down the East Coast and the Discovery Channel was doing this big documentary show about it and you know how the journey went the problems that they ran into but for me the problem I was running into is I have to fly from a boat which is a moving vehicle I had to be over 400 feet and they wanted some of those shots at night right luckily we had all these waivers in place if not we would have had to tell them hey it's gonna take two to four months for us to get these waivers and they would have went to the next company so it always pays to have these waivers and authorizations in place this is embarrassing slide 19 is some of the recent accomplishments and projects that I've been working on a few a-list names up there you know locally what I can say locally in this market is we have seen a major spike in TV and movie productions being made in New England specifically in Massachusetts it's been great for us which is fantastic keeps us extremely busy which is great hiring gigs are fun they are lucrative as well the problem is there there is a lot of pressure you know when I was doing the equalizer to movie I mean we're flying we actually use this drone right here and you know they wanted me to fly the thing over Denzel Washington shoulder you know what I'm saying to myself man one gust of wind or mistake I could slice this guy's face open so there is a lot of pressure associated with it directors and and you know DPS directors of photography they want things done the first time time is money I mean imagine if you were you know there's one time where I was chasing a motorcycle and there were some explosions going off it took six hours to rig those explosions they're only going to go off once if you mess the shot up it's going to cost them another 6 Brenda rigged up it's going to take half a day of time to do it again so there's a lot of pressure to get it done right the first time but generally you know these jobs are few and far between the primary jobs that we usually do and promotional videos you know documentaries things of that nature can be a little less pressure but once you get into the upper epsilon of doing feature films and things of that nature it's you know be on your a-game alright a little bit about life on set higher end productions you can expect about 2k a day per operator which is lovely you know even even the visual observer making sure that we're not hitting power lines or things of that nature I mean the guy's just looking up and paying attention he's making a great day's pay there but again there there is a lot of pressure that 2 grand per day I need to note too that that's not including gear rental insurance and media rental and everything else that comes along with it so you know I work for a company called above summit as I mentioned here in Summerville you know they're usually charging twenty thirty thousand dollars a day when we're on a movie that's just a little piece of what the operators see we generally work in a three-man crew when you're on TV and movies it can be extremely humbling as well a lot of times you you know will nail a shot the director will love it everyone will say oh that's great you did such a great job then the TV show comes down you're like where's my footage they don't use it sometimes you know and you get kind of bummed out about it so it can be a humbling experience you could spend weeks and hours on set flying creating footage getting them content and barely any of it will be used I was talking earlier about the equalizer movie with Denzel that I did seven days on set got him roughly two hours of raw footage and about seven seconds made the final movie I loved the seven seconds but wish there was a little bit more what was the 12 days on set – 12 seconds in the final cut which movie was that oh I think yeah that was the equalizer when maybe it was 12 seconds not seven when why bring and why bring a book um um yeah there you go there buddy the bring a book thing don't don't literally bring a book cuz you just look pretty silly that the main point of the bring a book thing is it's extremely boring you got to remember the whole movies not made with this thing they're generally doing action sequence with the drone tracking shots establishing shots you know top down where you're high up and the cameras pointed straight down things of that nature but there's about 30 other camera you know equipment and people out there they're also getting their shots their ground shots and things of that nature which does take up the bulk of the movie or TV show or whatever so I have found there have been times that I've been on set 1214 hours and I've only flown this thing maybe 10 20 minutes so there is a ton of downtime that's you know hence the bring a book and sometimes it can be disappointing last year we did a pilot TV show for NBC called suspicion it was a very fun shoot they had a stunt guy getting dragged on the back of a Cadillac Escalade and we got to track it and film it and we just got some incredible footage some incredible shots everyone was super happy the show wrapped the first couple episodes of the pilot it gets sent off to NBC a bunch of guys in suits were there and they said yeah we hate this and it just got scrapped altogether and the good part is their checks still cleared but you know we're not seeing any of that work you know what that's about it for me how do I click this link to get to work Phil asked me to string together some footage that I've taken personally so you guys can kind of see the drone in action all the footage you're gonna see here actually was not done with this drone this is more of a professional drone this was all done with a DJI phantom this is a drone that you could you know literally pick up at BestBuy for like a thousand bucks I like having it just because it's you know you can throw it in them in the back of your car and have around if you ever see something fun to go out in the film you have it there questions questions yeah guys hit me with some questions while this thing's playing anybody got any questions for me if anyone wants to come up and play with this thing or take a look at it feel free but this is roan right here dual battery system so you'll notice it's got two cool thing about this particular system self-induced heating batteries which is great in the wintertime you know cold equals bad battery voltage so with these things you know heating and going that's great in regards to like range if you're wondering about range this and go a mile up in four miles out all right do I want to do that no huh time estimated time twenty two minutes to twenty four depending on load and how aggressive you're flying it you know if I'm if I'm in this thing has something called sport mode or you know ludicrous mode whatever you want to call it that you can get this thing up to like eighty and it's gonna suck the juice out of the batteries real quick if you're you know thrusting full throttle for a while but if you're just hovering it could get twenty five twenty six minutes back to the range thing yes this thing can go a mile up in four miles out I never like to do that I look at this thing as a big bag of money alright you want your money close to you you want it four miles out where you can't have your eyes on it you know you'd be surprised a lot of people do like doing that they call it range testing I call it stupidity you know let's see how far we can send the thing before it it has a battery failure you know before it auto lands you know not something I like to screw around with personally should be up now anyone else sir [Music] yes anything you're gonna make money or promote yourself 1:07 if it just think to yourself if I'm just out having fun I don't need a 107 they do need to be 107 or and a 107 operator has to you know you could hire a guy like me to just be there and say hey you're doing everything on the up-and-up make sure to read back the question cuz oh I'm sorry the video yeah that's fine got anybody else [Music] this is what we do so in a lot of our contracts you know when we when we get initially approached by like columbia pictures or lionsgate or something of that nature they'll send us a volume you know of their contract and what we're allowed to do with the footage what we're not you know it's almost like an NDA as well you can't post behind-the-scenes stuff you can't kind of blow yourself up on social media or things of that nature sometimes we put verbage in there that says hey after we say we want to use the footage for our own personal promotion what they generally come back and say is you can do that after the the movies come out right they don't want you promoting something that they don't get first dibs of promoting first so after the movies released usually you give it like a month grace period you know that in between period before it's on Netflix or DVD but it's out of the theater then we usually feel comfortable to you know kind of self promote with that footage anybody else are you guys all mesmerized by drone fine look at that that was actually Big Island Hawaii right there that's local that's in West Boylston I tell people that my dream is to get as good footage out of a four hundred thousand dollar helicopter as a person can get out of a four hundred dollar drone the helicopter guys absolutely hate us we are stealing their market share you know exponentially are the movie studios do they want to hire they have to hire the photographer the pilot the fuel the time the cost all that or they want to hire us at a third of a cost and we're gonna get better more dynamic footage so the doing it out of helicopters is is going to the wayside everyone's kind of going to these machines now yeah so Michael said this was about ten thousand dollars including the camera there's just a piece of metal that's FA certified through a supplemental type certificate called the Tyler amount and you just connect this to your helicopter any landing gear or something and then put the camera on this piece of metal and I think that piece of metal you know the cheapest ones I've ever seen are about twelve thousand dollars so just a piece of metal that has through the approval process and all the paperwork costs more than the entire drone system in the camera balls can be in the 4 or 5 $600,000 range that go underneath helicopters Robinson actually makes a cool news copter it's all FAA certified right from the factory think it's in a million dollar range if it has the ball and the camera and the transmitter back to the TV station but as Michael said you know do we really need those in the drone age ya know generation of drones what capability is what I like to see I'm currently right now talking to a bunch of people that I guess not capability but they're doing a lot with augmented reality and I think you're gonna see a lot of that coming out I'm sure you guys have heard of it I'm gonna sound really nerdy here but pokemons go you know on your cell phone and you can see the little Pokemon guys running around and now imagine if I wanted to train somebody on how to properly fly a drone then I could you know put these rings or circles or maybe directions on the screen when they're flying to kind of go through the hoop and you know make a figure eight or things like that so I think we're gonna see a lot of kind of augmented reality stuff coming in and and things of that nature also they're making them smaller that's another big thing and they're making them more diverse with image systems what you can mount you know being able to mount something smaller more powerful they have cameras now that have hundred times zoom on one end of the camera and then on the other end they have thermal so you can switch back and forth between the two on the same drone so things of that nature kind of making it more efficient and battery time as well that's a big thing people want drones that are going to you know fly for hours not minutes so I think you're gonna see a big push in that [Music] this is it these are controllers I'll level with you if any of you guys have ever played first-person shooter games on PlayStation it's about the same right one remote for the pilot one remote for cam op so it's the same remote basically it's the same principle if you're playing a first-person shooter left and right on the joystick a camera operator and and drone operator get the same physical remote correct okay correct it's that answer the question for you well so thank you thank you for reminded that the key word there's autonomy so there are different programs now I don't use them personally a lot because my applications more cinematic and doing things of that nature which I like to fly manually there's more you know feathering and kind of finesse to that but a lot of people that are doing Industrial right like like surveying and things of that nature this thing's as powerful as it gets there's a program called lychee that you can attach to this drone that you'll you can run off there they're operating platform you can put waypoints in and say all right go to point a at 50 feet snap a photo then go 20 feet up go to the right a hundred feet then take a video and then go down you know so you can pre-program these things a lot of my buddies do it they make great money and all they do is they they program the grid into the drone they hit go and then they sit back and they watch the thing do the job for them you know and there is there's great money in the industrial sector with these things with autonomous flights and things of that nature the only time I've ever used waypoints is to do something called a hyperlapse if anyone knows about photo or video a a time-lapse is something when you take a photo then you move the camera take a photo move the camera take a photo a hyperlapse is when you include motion in something like that Waypoint feature is great we put a waypoint at point a and then you know 300 feet away we point point B and we say every two seconds from A to B take a photo and go to this straight line then we string all the photos together and you get like a cool little hyperlapse effect so sometimes we use the autonomy honestly the enjoyment is for me is flying manually I don't want to just enter in a bunch of data and say okay go do your job I'd rather be on the controls and you know having fun with it so hope that answers your question sir some guys studio again who did the industrial kind of stuff yes they'll they'll utilize the the functions for autonomy but again personally I just don't I like flying we hated Michael that literally is how comfortable you are with it some people I know never take the the obstacle avoidance off they think it's there for a reason they don't need to get that really tight clothes in shot a lot of people just do hi and what we call high and wide you know you just fly the thing up 300 feet you get a nice landscape view or whatever you're looking for and you have the collision on for that or whatever but again I mean you probably saw some of those close shots I had in that video though you can't have you can't obtain that with the with the avoidance system on me personally I think within three weeks I turned him off man that was I guess not for me I just want to jam on the thing and get some great footage so you know the safety wasn't impeding it a little bit for me right it can fly well over 400 feet but you're only allowed to fly up to 400 feet the funny thing is like why do you want it though I mean well why do you want to be three feet off the ground risking your you know a couple thousand dollar piece of equipment when you could just take a handheld camera and walk you know I mean you saw in some of the shots there I'm skimming waves at a foot you know foot off the way of skimming them so yeah you you can fly really low again you you have to have your sensors off for that though you're the the sensor systems that are on these things will say what are you doing idiot don't don't fly me like this you know so in order to achieve it you have to shut them off so if you're like reading often rather than your neighbors back there the yeah that's a slippery slippery slope the privacy laws and things of that nature I mean a lot of the bad press that drones get you know like oh I was sunbathing in my backyard a night and I saw a drone you know way up in the sky and they're invading my privacy and it's just like well really think about that you look like a little ant and like how much privacy am I really invading you know handheld cameras with telescopic lens are gonna invade more privacy than this thing is some I think it's an evolving legal area like that and it's the classical law has been that the airspace belongs to the public only the FAA can regulate it but that's been eroded I think a few states have been passing you know anti-drone laws they've been trying the various kind so I don't think it's a I think it's untested legal area there's a question over here I don't know the acronym what's the acronym ESP yeah fixed-wing has to have ATS be installed by 2020 so they're they're cure the question was our drones gonna have to have them the problem with it right now is they don't make them lightweight and small enough to equip on these things when they do in the technologies they're I'm willing to bet you're gonna see it yeah absolutely the problem is the weight you know you can't you can't throw that extra weight and get any kind of you know viable performance out of it with them right now but as the gets better and they make those things smaller I'm willing to bet you're gonna see them on every single one yeah very slow for me aerials sir great question great question I've seen so many people crash they're grown because they are I call them screen warriors alright they're there they got their control here and they got their iPad mounted and they can see everything in there oh my god this is so great boom they hit a tree why why did they hit the tree because the camera right now this drones a little bit different when this drone takes off this landing gear actually raises up above the body here so this camera down here can spin 360 without getting the legs in the footage or anything of that nature but your general consumer drone when you're looking at your iPad when you're flying right you're seeing what the camera sees which is great but what you're not seeing is your peripheral right you're not you're not seeing that your props are out this this far and if you're just sitting there looking at the screen you'll you'll end up clipping something you'll end up doing something my general rule of thumb if I'm flying by myself I set up a shot I look at the screen a lot of times though and this just comes with experience I know what the cameras I can look at the drone know what the cameras seeing and a professional setting that's why you have a multi person crew while you have a visual observer because a lot of the times when you're getting paid and you're under pressure and time crunch to get the shot your head needs to be dug into that screen and that's why you need radio communication with a visual observer to say hey you're clear no obstruction 25 yards have at it or you know whatever whatever the case may be but flying for fun by yourself my advice would be look up at your bird every now and again I've also had people that have flown and then been like wait where is it you know because again these things can go a mile up in a mile out and all the sudden they're like wait a second where'd my drone go now luckily for lack of better terms and excuse my language I call it the oh button but there's a button right here so when I turn the drone on what it does is it communicates the satellites it marks a GPS home point right now if I'm being an idiot and I'm sending it out you know a mile away the drone is smart enough to say hey I only have enough battery percentage to get back to your home point and it will kick me off the controls all together and it will fly itself back and land right where you took off same function as where'd my drone go I can't find it if I really need it to you hit that button and the thing will fly itself back now if you utilize that function but this is getting back to the sensors and things of that nature if you have your sensors turned off you're in trouble right because what the drone is going to do is take its most direct path back to your home point if there is a building in a way it will hit the building if your sensors are off now if your sensors are on like I actually have this setup to where if return to home function kicks in the sensors turn on right and then I also have it set up to where if it meets an obstruction let's say there's a building here oh no I don't know where my drone is I hit return to home and it comes towards the building it will sense it and will raise altitude until it clears it and then it'll clear it and continue on back to the home point I never like to rely on return to home though never I just I don't feel comfortable with it I like knowing again using the bag of money situation he's at I don't want it to get away from me again I mean you guys can come up and pick this thing up it has some weight to it if this thing fell 400 feet and hit somebody they're in trouble you are in trouble so it behooves you to always have set of eyes on it and you know pay attention to everything you're doing there you

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